Monday, November 30, 2009

An Unusual Interpretation of an Achievement of Arms

Based on an interpretation of his achievement of arms, is Prince Charles the Anti-Christ? There’s a website out there that would have you believe so.

The website Mouth of the Lion by Jason Guenther http://www.thelowestroom.com/Jason/MouthOfTheLion/lionsmouth.htm discusses, among a lot of other things, the depiction of the achievement of arms of Charles, Prince of Wales and Heir Apparent to the throne of the United Kingdom, and how that achievement can be used to demonstrate, well, just all sorts of bad stuff.


Mind you, I think he’s picking and choosing his evidence carefully, so that you notice what he wants you to notice, and he disregards other parts that don’t fit with his theories. For example, he points out the ten lions (on the arms of the United Kingdom and the Principality of Wales), but fails to include the rampant lion of Scotland, which would make eleven. (If we added in the lion supporter and the lion crest, we’d end up with 13!) He points out four crowns in the achievement, but fails to note a fifth one, ensigning the arms of the Duchy of Cornwall. (Oh, wait, here we go. He mentions the fifth one in the text. He must have forgotten to point it out in the illustration.)

Anyway, I thought it was an interesting misapplication, or misinterpretation, or at least misunderstanding, of heraldry today.

13 comments:

  1. That's just silly. Everyone knows that Bill gates is the Anti-christ ;) (irony tags are missing for this post).

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  2. Isn't there yet another crown, on this achievement - the one on Prince of Wales' feathers?

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  3. bsmith13 -- Well, I don't know about _that_, though I do blame Bill Gates, personally, every time I have a problem with my computer.

    Anonymous -- If you check the website, he calls the crown on the Prince of Wales badge (and that gorging the unicorn supporter) "cornets" (presumably a typo for "coronets", but I could be making an unwarranted assumption on that point), differentiating them from the arched "crowns".

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  4. You don't find it interesting that Charles's coat of arms looks similar to what Revelations 13 says?

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    1. No, sorry, but I just don't see it. I've carefully read all through Revelation 13, and fail to find any real correlations between it and the Royal coat of arms of the United Kingdom.

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  5. I'm guessing Author Tim Cohen's videos are causing people to search, and some are ending up here.

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    1. Tim is not the only one who believes King Charles is the Anti-Christ. There are plenty of people writing & talking about it.

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    2. I am not qualified to speak to whether or not King Charles is the Anti-Christ, but to try to make the case that his coat of arms is evidence of that, especially given how far back in history the various parts of the heraldic achievement actually go (I mean, the quarter of England, with its red background and three golden lions dates back to the reign of King Richard the Lionheart), seems a bit of an overreach.

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    3. Charles is of an ancient bloodline of elites. This has passed down far longer than even the history of England. The continuity stretches back to his ancestors, who also employed these themes. My own idea is that they willingly serve a darker higher power that we think of as Satan. His line has been vessels for this spirit. Look into Wotan, the sun cross (and its use in Germany at various stages - including WW2), the green man. All of this and so much more is firmly tied to the Royal family and in particular, Charles seems to be uniquely significant.

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    4. Genealogists have estimated that about 80% of native Englishmen and women have King Edward III somewhere in their family tree. As a consequence, they, too, are "of an ancient bloodline of elites." Are they, also, serving "a darker higher power?" Are they also "vessels for this spirit?" I don't think that this is how secret cabals work. Just sayin'.

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  6. I think he's right, even if all of the details aren't completely accurate. On your note about additional lions; it's more about clusters/segments. There's a ton of symbolism packed in there. I don't see the body of a leopard and feet of a bear, personally. But that's redundant. The core idea is there, and he's 100% onto something. There's so much more beyond just this coat of arms to support the theory.

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    1. While I agree that "there's a ton of symbolism packed in there," I don't see any evidence that the symbolism in the arms has anything to do with evil forces. He may be "100% onto something," but that something has no sound basis for interpreting the Royal Arms of the United Kingdom in the way that he does. He seems to be to be like "like a foolish man who built his house on sand." (Matt. 7:26)

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